Verge Notes: Casear Kalinowski, Jeff Vanderstelt, Jackie Hill, Kevin Peck, Alan Hirsch


We need to know God’s story, and our story, and others’ stories.

1)   LISTEN to God. Be Quiet.

2)   CELEBRATE. Join in the celebrations around you, eating with others. (You’re eating anyway…)

4)   BLESS. Find 3 people you can bless each week – with words or action or gifts.

5)   RE-CREATE. Find rest in Christ’s completed work, and then we work.

“God has given you all perfect rhythm to join Him in His dance.”


John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; apart from Me you can do nothing.

You and I will not lead the people to Jesus. The Spirit of God has to be at work in them. Wait for power! 

{Amy’s 2 cents:  we have that power in us. The Holy Spirit. We need to fan it into flame, stir it up through prayer – mad, intense prayer that unlocks doors and shakes the unseen! Prayer is our biggest tool.}

Acts 1:4-5  “On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: ‘Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’”

Scripture alone will not help you overcome – you need the power of the Spirit. Spirit + Word.

Some people think they have to BE the Holy Spirit – telling others what to do. Instead, ask the Holy Spirit to do the convicting, telling.  Believe the Spirit will do its job.

Everyone one of you has someone following you right now. You are making disciples. What are you making disciples of?

Ephesians 4 – Everyone grows up. The church should not remain in infancy. We should be able to feed ourselves. When someone says they want more meat in a sermon, they usually mean they want the pastor to dig up some deeper truth and chew on it and spit it out for them.  We need to find our own meat, find satisfaction in feeding ourselves. And then we feed the infants.

Eph 4:20 – We speak the truth in love – could it meant that we SPEAK JESUS to one another in love? Don’t give them a Bible. Give them Jesus in the Bible. Show them!   You need to speak that Jesus is the Son of God, He is perfect. It is never your obedience that will grant God’s favor for you. Speak Jesus life, death, resurrection and ascension. We are clean. We have power.

We are giving people lots of fun steps for how to have a better life, when we should be giving them Jesus.  They complain about work, we listen.

We say: Do you really want to work for that boss? But should we we say: You work for the servant of all!

We say: You are right you should be making more money. But should we say: You are a co-heir with Christ! If you are not satisfied with Christ NOTHING will satisfy you.

You have anxiety? What does that say about what you believe? That you are in control? Or worse – that God is in control but has abandoned you. Or worse – that God is not omnipotent.

Don’t just tell them God is in control. How do I KNOW that?  Tell them. When it looked bad, with Jesus on the cross, God was in control. We’ve got to give them Jesus in every aspect of their lives.

About girls who have guy drama: anytime your life rises or falls on another person, or some particular thing, that is worship.  Tell them how Jesus is better. A better man loves you – even when you’re a mess. You’re looking for Jesus.

Don’t just lead your kids in a Bible story, lead them into a life where they are desperate and NEED the Bible.  We need to learn to speak Jesus. It’s a process.

Conscious competence is the most painful type of learning, but eventually it becomes unconscious competence – Gospel fluency.

JACKIE HILL –spoken word artist

“What slaves of Christian busyness have we become?”

“…learning how to do everything under the sun but love.”

“The end of our conversion is not the end of the gospel.”

“Let us make war with the ticking of our minds before our time runs out.”


We can’t lean on our own power or abilities. We must lean on God to do the work. In John 21, after the resurrection, Jesus reveals himself to his disciples from the shore (“haven’t you got any fish?” “Cast your net on the other side”) Break the nets with fish when you do it HIS way.  God, I repent of my self-dependence.  This is all my hope and peace, This is all my righteousness, Nothing but the blood of Jesus.


This is Missional church: to involve ourselves in the Grand Mision of God. All the big movements – the early Methodists, the Moravians, azuza street, they all shared one key: they were obsessed with discipleship and disciplemaking. If you take discipleship out, you’d be left with nothing. {Recommendation: Article on discipleship by Mike Breen: “Why the Missional Church will Fail}

The key to health, sustainability and extension in the church is not more evangelism. It’s discipleship.

“It’s impossible to teach a man what he thinks he already knows” – Epictetus  We need to relearn what evangelism is. What is the Great Commission really about?

Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”

Andrew Ellison– “The difference between discipleship and evangelism (as the church usually does it) is raising a child instead of just making one.”

Consumerism is an alternate religion. The church growth movement is consumerism.

“You can’t consume your way into the Kingdom.”

You want the kingdom? You have to die for it. You can’t take that out of the equation.

Luke 9:25 “Then he said to them all: ‘Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.  For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will save it.”

We mustn’t’ stop sharing the good news – but it just happens along the way as you disciple.  For instance, when did the disciples get born again? At the beginning when they first met Jesus? Or somewhere along the way? Jesus had a lot of pre-conversion disciples.  We can’t produce a born-again experience (No ‘pray this prayer after me’ can produce it) only GOD can produce that. It is HIS job, not mine. My job is to disciple. What is discipleship? Jesus.   It is more than the initial salvation.  It is how to live after salvation. All theology must inform our methodology. The Incarnation is a huge part of our story.  The content of discipleship – the agenda – comes from the LIFE of Jesus. Reducing the gospel to his death, you lose it. Defend the gospel, but defend the FULL gospel.

D.Bonhoeffer said:

“Discipleship means adherence to Christ, and, because Christ is the object of that adherence, it must take the form of discipleship.

An abstract Christology, a doctrinal system, a general religious knowledge on the subject of grace or on the forgiveness of sins, render discipleship superfluous, and in fact they positively exclude any idea of discipleship whatever, and are essentially inimical to the whole conception of following Christ.

With an abstract idea it is possible to enter into a relation of formal knowledge, to become enthusiastic about it, and perhaps even to put it into practice; but it can never be followed in personal obedience.

Christianity without the living Christ is inevitably Christianity without discipleship, and Christianity without discipleship is always Christianity without Christ.”

“And Christianity without Christ is sh*t” – Alan Hirsch

C.S. LEWIS said “In the same way the Church exists for nothing else but to draw men into Christ, to make them little Christs. If they are not doing that, all the cathedrals, clergy, missions, sermons, even the Bible itself, are simply a waste of time.”






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